you know those articles from the wt are coming, along with emails from jw friends and family.
all the shameless self-attaboys, and fictitious observations by non-jws remarking on how jws provided the most and best assistance to the victims..
I recently had a JW tell me that they were "the first ones there" at Newtown. Shameless self-promotion. How on earth would someone even verify that?
So let's get this straight, they won't perform any real charity, but whenever a disaster or tragic event happens they come running in with their pamphlets.
i fully realize the revisionist history about 1919 and it has been well documented.. but what i took out of the first article about the chain of events during the great tribulation makes sense and is encouraging.. i could never understand that after doing nothing for 2000 years jehovah a god of love would wipe out 8 billion men ,women and children without given a genuine chance.
so what happens, the u.n. goes after organized religion [do'nt ask me how] then jesus starts judging.. does'nt the bible say that all who call on the name of jehovah will be saved?
so people will have a clearcut path to choose, either put their trust in god or the nations.
does'nt the bible say that all who call on the name of Jehovah will be saved?
No it doesn't, and you can verify this on your own with the Kingdom Interlinear Translation.
i don't really know what to say i'm a bit nervous.
but i am new here and i want to say thank you all for these forums and the many contributions people have made.. for about 9 months i been frequenting here and other places on the net while i have undergone an in depth bible analysis.
after finding that my bible is not consistant with the more favorable options of translating greek words especially in key doctinal areas, i have concluded the great unlikelyhood of jehovah's witnesses having god's blessing and approval.. not just that though.
What now? Live a good life, treat others will love and respect.
Take a moment to let your loved ones know how much they mean to you.
Smile more, judge less, and never underestimate the power of random acts of kindness.
i consider myself more a "moderate" in my thinking, whether it be politically or otherwise..
Center-left Moderate.
My general policy during election years is to vote for the political party that seems least harmful to the country and the world as a whole.
this should be important if you are christian, the authorities may now declare you to be an "extremist" threat, and under the law, particularily american law, it could even result in the fullest extant of law (ndaa, etc).
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/army-labeled-evangelicals-as-religious-extremism.html.
a u.s. army training instructor listed evangelical christianity and catholicism as examples of religious extremism along with al qaeda and hamas during a briefing with an army reserve unit based in pennsylvania, fox news has learned.. the incident occurred during an army reserve equal opportunity training brief on extremism.
Army spokesman George Wright told Fox News that this was an "isolated incident not condoned by the Dept. of the Army." "This slide was not produced by the Army and certainly does not reflect our policy or doctrine," he said. "It was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of command's knowledge or permission."
Manufactured outrage.
But don't let me spoil your fear mongering and conspiracy theories.
glaciologists from ohio state university have been studying the ice fields in peru.
tropical peru is home to ice formations 18,000 feet up in the quelccaya region, the largest of these tropical region ice sheets.. the glacier is melting so quickly that plant samples are having to be frozen artifically so that scientists 30 years from now can have something to study, lonnie thompson from the university said in the interview.
the ice field is the smallest it has been since the last ice age.. peruvians rely on the water from the glaciers, which will be reduced by 50% in their lifetime.
Very interesting thread. I suspect that the Koch brothers would love to get their money back that funded a study that confirmed global warming.
Something that's rarely mentioned in the media is the positive feedback loop that occurs as polar ice melts. It's a pretty simple concept actually; ice reflects more solar radiation than open water. A decrease in ice surface area causes an increase in solar radiation absorption.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100428142324.htm
I'm assuming that everyone here understands what a greenhouse gas is.
so i've been talking to one of my jw relatives lately, she's a young adult, born-in.
i've never openly said i don't believe in the governing body, and i've been asking her questions in order to get her thinking.
so i asked her if she believed watchtower publications were inspired and equivalent to the bible.
So I've been talking to one of my JW relatives lately, she's a young adult, born-in.
I've never openly said I don't believe in the Governing Body, and I've been asking her questions in order to get her thinking.
So I asked her if she believed Watchtower publications were inspired and equivalent to the Bible. She didn't really answer my question; it's amazing how good they are at that. Speaking of Watchtower articles she made this spectacular claim:
"The brothers that are assigned to make the publications do NOT put any of their own words in them. They pray for Jehovah's holy spirit and they say every word in accord to what we have in the scriptures."
I'm not quite sure what would be the best response. I'm thinking of playing dumb by claiming I don't understand what she means. That way she gets to dig herself into a deeper hole in trying to explain it further.
By the way, exactly what is the current Watchtower "truth" on this subject? Are the articles considered to be inspired? According to the Governing Body, are members of the Great Crowd (the writing staff), able to channel holy spirit?
What respectful, thought-provoking question should I ask her about this issue?
in the usa a new record was set on food stamp enrollments, which seems ironic.
you would think as unemployment drops , food stamp usage would be dropping, too.
maybe those government unemployment numbers are fake numbers.
A link from Breitbart.com to a Fox News video? If you want your argument to be taken more seriously you should use sources with a little more credibility.
It looks like there has been an increase in the percentage of Americans receiving SNAP benefits in the last few years.
So the honest questions we should be looking into is, have the requirements for acceptance into the program changed? Or is the increase based on other external factors?
moshe, do feel that the food stamp program should be eliminated entirely, or merely reformed in order to reduce the total number of recipients?
as most suspected, the wts filed their brief, at least it looks that way..... http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
it also notes aob in excess of word count limit.. wonder if they did that to buy more time?.
Resistance is Futile, even then, penitential communication has to be between "one" Clergy member "in confindence", in "private", no second or third party
Do you have a source for the quote above? Any legal precedent? Because the text of the law in the link you provided doesn't mention those specifics.
It seems that Watchtower lawyers could argue that this exemption should still apply even though their confessional arraignment is different from the Catholic Church in that other elders are present during these "private, in confidence" penitential communications.
as most suspected, the wts filed their brief, at least it looks that way..... http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.
it also notes aob in excess of word count limit.. wonder if they did that to buy more time?.
mindblown, I believe there is loop hole in CA law about clergy having to report abuse. Many states still have "clergy exemptions" to reporting child abuse. These laws must be changed, and I think if the public was made aware of these exemptions there would be a lot of pressure put on state legislators to modify the child abuse laws. The following was copied directly from your link:
10. Are clergy mandated to report? Yes. Beginning January 1, 1997, all clergy members are mandated to report known or suspected instances of child abuse to a child protective agency. Clergy members are exempt from their mandated reporting responsibilities only if the knowledge or reasonable suspicion of child abuse was obtained during a "penitential communication". (P.C. 11165. ( c)( (1))."Penitential communication" means a communication, intended to be in confidence, including, but not limited to, a sacramental confession, made to a clergy member who, in the course of the discipline or practice of his or her church, denomination, or organization, has a duty to keep those communications secret. (P.C. 11166( c)(2)).
Although, if an elder in California reports back to headquarters in NY I would think that the person in Bethel is now under NY state law, and could be prosecuted for not notifying law enforcement. Perhaps someone here with legal experience could clarify the reporting requirements in such a situation.
